Would like to use the initials of the company name somehow. "SCG". Would like to have a symbol of strength like pillars, mountain, or compass and some how integrate a overhand knot somewhere in the logo. The knot represents a Boy Scount's reminder to "do a good turn daily". I'll try to send a picture of the knot or possible to do a image search on google for "do a good turn daily" boyscout knot.